HALK MUZIK - I need help !!!

Good evening.

I found 2 music disk from Turkey:
KARABIBER AŞM'OLUR - MUZAFFER SARISOZAN - ODEON LA 270595 - CO 4253
KARA BİBER (TÜRKÜSÜ) - A. GAZİ AYHAN - ODEON LA 270599 - CO 4202

I need the photograph of disk (label), the chronology recording and the sound (mp3)

Or some others records - oldest, before 1950- with this title: KARA BİBER or KARABİBER or KARABİBERIM
I want to know if the song exists in the older recordings (eg. I saw in the internet for : Refik Başaran ?... or Ürgüplü Kamil ... ? )
Or any elements which proves that recording became first in Turkey, before 1950...

If this is not possible... Please... I want to know (roughly) the date-the year the first recording.

This is very urgent for a court with the subject of intellectual rights.


I thank you -in advance…

Sari_Kiz
from Athens, Greece


PS:
Apology...
My english are… primitive!

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Good evening.

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İyi Geceler

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I found 2 music disk from Turkey:

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Türkiye'den 2 müzik diski buldum

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KARABIBER AŞM'OLUR - MUZAFFER SARISOZAN - ODEON LA 270595 - CO 4253
KARA BİBER (TÜRKÜSÜ) - A. GAZİ AYHAN - ODEON LA 270599 - CO 4202

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I need the photograph of disk (label), the chronology recording and the sound (mp3)

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Diskin kronoloji ses kaydının disk(etiket) fotoğrafına ihtiyacım var.

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Or some others records - oldest, before 1950- with this title: KARA BİBER or KARABİBER or KARABİBERIM
I want to know if the song exists in the older recordings (eg. I saw in the internet for : Refik Başaran ?... or Ürgüplü Kamil ... ? )
Or any elements which proves that recording became first in Turkey, before 1950...

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KARA BİBER veya KARABİBER veya KARABİBERIM başlıklı, veya 1950'den eski diğer kayıtlar.
Eski şarkı kayıtları varsa bilmek isterim.
(Mesela İnternette gördüklerim, Refik Başaran veya Ürgüplü Kamil)

Türkiye'de, 1950 öncesi ilk olan, Veya bu kayıtları kanıtlayan herhangi bir element.

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If this is not possible... Please... I want to know (roughly) the date-the year the first recording.

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Eğer bu mümkün değil ise... Lütfen... ilk kayıtların tarihini bilmek isterim.

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This is very urgent for a court with the subject of intellectual rights.

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Fikri hakları konusu ile bir mahkeme için. Bu çok acil.

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I thank you -in advance…

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Teşekkür ederim.

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Sari_Kiz
from Athens, Greece

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Yunanistan/Athina'dan
Sari_Kiz

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PS:
Apology...
My english are… primitive!

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PS: neyse artik :)
Özür dilerim.
İngilizcem çok ilkelce.

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Çevirebildiğim kadarıyla çevirdim :)

benbişi anlamadım ??

Bu mesaj yanlışlıkla mı gelmiş acaba.

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müslüm akpek Nickli Üyeden Alıntı

Bu mesaj yanlışlıkla mı gelmiş acaba.

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Why all these???!!!!

I do not understand your queries and the "deep reading" for simple current (search & help)!!!
I don't know your page, and neither I know with what it deals, I can not I read what is written…
But, I know very well to search with the better way in order to I find something.
As I know exceptionally to understand the musical culture of Anatolia & Mediterranean.

I believed, that I entered in a forum with persons how that could help a other "BIRADER".
If made error, he is all my own!
If you make you error, is not only yours... (from what I could I read in your page… Turkish and English I read from the dictionary !!!!)


I thank, because you read -only for this reason- my post.
I will try to find a help elsewhere …


[PS]:
The culture does not have homeland… (πατρίδα)
The culture exists inside us and he show with our actions !


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If somebody has a information for songs which can help me, please answer me.....

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Misafir _ Sari_Kiz Nickli Üyeden Alıntı

Why all these???!!!!

I do not understand your queries and the "deep reading" for simple current (search & help)!!!
I don't know your page, and neither I know with what it deals, I can not I read what is written…
But, I know very well to search with the better way in order to I find something.
As I know exceptionally to understand the musical culture of Anatolia & Mediterranean.

I believed, that I entered in a forum with persons how that could help a other "BIRADER".
If made error, he is all my own!
If you make you error, is not only yours... (from what I could I read in your page… Turkish and English I read from the dictionary !!!!)


I thank, because you read -only for this reason- my post.
I will try to find a help elsewhere …


[PS]:
The culture does not have homeland… (πατρίδα)
The culture exists inside us and he show with our actions !


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If somebody has a information for songs which can help me, please answer me.....

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Bize neden kızıyorsunuz, ne istediğinizi tam olarak anlayamadık, sitemizde ingilizce bilenler bile sizin berbat İngilizcenizi çözemedi.

Size yardımcı olabilmemiz için nerden yazdığınızı söylerseniz, sizin dilinizi bilen biri mutlaka çıkar daha iyi anlaşabiliriz.

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müslüm akpek Nickli Üyeden Alıntı

Bize neden kızıyorsunuz, ne istediğinizi tam olarak anlayamadık, sitemizde ingilizce bilenler bile sizin berbat İngilizcenizi çözemedi.

Size yardımcı olabilmemiz için nerden yazdığınızı söylerseniz, sizin dilinizi bilen biri mutlaka çıkar daha iyi anlaşabiliriz.

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Bunun dilinden ancak Yusuf anlar.

Belki de biri bizle kafa buluyor.

Kafa buluyor.

KARA BİBER veya KARABİBER veya KARABİBERIM başlıklı, veya 1950'den eski diğer kayıtlar.
Eski şarkı kayıtları varsa bilmek isterim.
(Mesela İnternette gördüklerim, Refik Başaran veya Ürgüplü Kamil)
demiş. Yani eski yerel ozanların ses kayıtlarını arıyor.
Geçen yıl birisi gelip Nizip'den bir taş plağı 500 tl ye aldı.
Elinizde bu plaklardan özellikle mesajda geçenlerde varsa, buraya yazın, adam satın alacak.

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Misafir _ Sari_Kiz Nickli Üyeden Alıntı

Why all these???!!!!

I do not understand your queries and the "deep reading" for simple current (search & help)!!!
I don't know your page, and neither I know with what it deals, I can not I read what is written…
But, I know very well to search with the better way in order to I find something.
As I know exceptionally to understand the musical culture of Anatolia & Mediterranean.

I believed, that I entered in a forum with persons how that could help a other "BIRADER".
If made error, he is all my own!
If you make you error, is not only yours... (from what I could I read in your page… Turkish and English I read from the dictionary !!!!)


I thank, because you read -only for this reason- my post.
I will try to find a help elsewhere …


[PS]:
The culture does not have homeland… (πατρίδα)
The culture exists inside us and he show with our actions !


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If somebody has a information for songs which can help me, please answer me.....

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Eger boyle cevap veriyorsan Turkce biliyorsun ya da enazindan anliyorsun gibi geliyor!

Basically, if you do not understand Turkish, and If someone knows about what you are looking you can make sure, definetly you will get helped from your BIRADER here!

But I doubt anyone knows about this 'musical culture' what you mention!

Sincerely, good luck.